Dave Tarrida
On the eve of his Globus Mix release on Berlin's Tresor imprint, John Osselaer talks to Scottish techno visionary Dave Tarrida.
Founder member of legendary 90s Scottish club Sativa (immortalised in Irving Welsh's introduction to Malibu Stork Nightmare), Dave Tarrida has made Barcelona his home since the end of the nineties. His DJing exploits continue to take him worldwide, while releases on labels such as Mosquito, Predicaments and Tresor stand as a firm statement of production intent, reinforced by his co-running of Sativae Recordings with long-time associate Steve Glencross.
You spent the better part of your youth in Edinburgh. How did you get into electronic music up there?
You spent the better part of your youth in Edinburgh. How did you get into electronic music up there?
Back in the late eighties and early 90s, the UK was pretty happening for techno and dance music – It pretty much blew up there first with the acid house thing, so there was a lot going on, even in Scotland... In Edinburgh, we had the longest running techno club in the UK in Pure. They were the first in the UK to bring over many of the Detroit DJs to the UK, and were influential to everyone in Scotland at the time.
You were involved with the free party circuit in Europe in the early 90s. Can you tell a bit about that scene and perhaps some of your special memories from those days?
When we were running the club Sativa in Edinburgh, we were also organising free parties and setting up systems at the free festivals which happened back then. It was a big part of the scene we were all involved in, and we would also go down to London for the weekend to go to the Spiral, Bedlam, etc., parties which were going on. Many of the UK systems moved to Europe when the Criminal Justice Act arrived, so I went out there for a while, squatting and travelling around. It was a great time, with some of the craziest parties I've ever been to, I remember the first day I arrived in Holland I ended up at a party at a two-story primary school which had been squatted which went on for three days.
Can you give us some insight in to how the Sativa club came together – the people and motivations involved in it?
I started it with some friends in 1991, and ended in 1996. Steve Glencross and myself were the residents, with another friend Ian Brown playing also. Over the years all different people became involved, bringing different things to the club. At the end we had around 25 people all contributing; we had a techno floor, one for dub, reggae and ragga, and also a chill out room, we had people creating sculptures, re-designing venues with all our own stuff; it was kind of like a mini-festival. It was a lot of fun, doing all this, playing the music, and watching it evolve into what it did.
During the five years it ran, Sativa earned itself a formidable reputation. Can you give outsiders an idea of how the club developed and to what extent that corresponded with any initial plans you had?
We never really set out for anything in particular, we just started a small club, so we could play the music we were buying, and to have a laugh with our mates – and it just grew itself over the years. It was like we were in the right place at the right time. The music was popular with the people at the time. Our friends like Neil Landstrumm and Tobias Schmidt were starting to make music and come down and play, as well as internationals at the time. I think Claude Young did his first UK gig there, [DJ] Hell came quite a lot, as well as Dave Clarke and others. On the other hand we would also have our friends from SP23 come and play regularly.
Imagine it's 1993 and we're about to step through the doors at Sativa. What can we expect?
Well, it would be absolutely crammed with people, real hot and sweaty, loud, really dark with too many strobes. The music back then was hard and dark... I still think that some of the best club experiences I've ever had were from back there. It was still at a time when the music was quite new, so the atmosphere was maybe more vibrant to now. I think that some people got a bit of a fright on coming to Sativa back then – the crowd was mixed with punky looking people with shaved heads, dreadlocks, piercings and tattoos as well as the people who would usually go to techno clubs.
Why did the club eventually shut down in 1996?
I think everything has a lifespan, and it seemed to me that it was the right time to shut it. We had moved venue, and it didn't seem as good as it was.
In 1994 you started the Sativae label together with Steve Glencross. Was that a natural progression from the club night to the label?
Yes, it was a natural progression. At that point, as I said, Neil and Toby were playing at the club, as was Cristian, with whom I was good friends, so we started the label to get their music out. Other friends like Adam X, Jay Denham, DJ Hell all contributed also, so it was very much showcasing what we were playing at the club every week.
What direction or goals did you have in mind when you started Sativae?
There were no real goals, apart from getting the music released. We were all into it, but no real channels at that point for releasing it, so it was all very DIY Again, from there it just all seemed to work, and go from strength to strength.
Looking back at the catalogue built up over the years, what is your personal outlook on the development of the label and its place within the market?
I think in general most of the catalogue has something in common with each other, even though over the years we have covered different styles by a quite diverse range of producers. We were also lucky that the artists always seemed to give us great material, or sometimes the crazier stuff that they did, which kind of fits with the label. I'm not sure where we fit in the market but we have always been able to sell our records, and there still is a demand for it now. People still like to hear something a little different.
Drought is a sub-label of Sativae. Where do you differentiate between the two? And why start a sub-label?
We started the label because at that specific time we had a lot of material we wanted to release and couldn't have it all come out on Sativae. The first release was Jay Denham, which didn't fit onto Sativae that well, so we started Drought. Most of the darker music I think we have released has been on Sativae, but that doesn't always go to plan.
The sound that emerged from Edinburgh – strengthened by the likes of [Cristian] Vogel, [Justin] Berkovi and Subhead – developed into a particular strain of techno. Would you say the sound you guys developed was deliberately intended to be a reaction against other [techno] music?
I don't think it's a reaction against anything – I've never seen techno as one thing anyway. The whole loops thing, for example, is only part of it, not the whole thing. I think we are quite insular about the music anyway, no one really takes too much notice of what's 'cool' at the moment, everyone just gets on with whatever project they are doing.
What do you consider to be the main turning points/highlights in the development of this 'sound' and who are its primary originators and motivators?
I think it's hard to say if there have been any turning points. All the different producers have added their own flavour to whatever anyone thinks is the 'sound'. Any originators or motivators would have to be all the producers that I was into when I first heard them, and still into now. Too many to mention...
Cristian [Vogel], Neil [Landstrumm], Toby [Tobias Schmidt], the Subhead guys and yourself all ended up recording on the Tresor label. Why do you think you sound fits so well into the Tresor stable and what makes it such a good home for you?
The Tresor guys have always been genuinely into our music from the start, always backed us, and wanted to release it. You can't really ask anything more than that. Germany has always been strong for us – our stuff has always gone down well there, the people are open to different styles there, so Tresor makes a great home.
You've got a mix compilation on Tresor coming up. What can we expect from that – maybe a bit of a guideline to the track selection?
It's basically a cross section of the kind of thing I was playing the week that I did the mix. I didn't want to make it a 'greatest hits' thing – more of what I would play in a three-hour set, but put it into 75 minutes. I also asked some friends to contribute some exclusives to make it a little different... with tracks from Landstrumm/Horrorist, Vogel, Schmidt, Glencross, Tube Jerk and two from myself. There is an exclusive 12" out some time after the mix.
Early 1999 you moved from Edinburgh to Barcelona, where you were born. What prompted this move?
It was time for a change. I had been speaking about it for a long time and eventually just did it. I was born here and know the city well. I have a lot of family here, so it was the perfect place for me.
It was in Barcelona you finished your debut album Paranoid. Could it be that your new environment influenced your music and how does this express itself?
I don't think the moved me in a big way musically. Basically I still like and make the same stuff as I did before, but more that the people I know here may slightly affect the process. Missing Law Rain, for example, I did when I borrowed some samples from my flatmate, Funk D' Void, and just made my own track from sounds I normally would not use.
Let's flip back a bit. You DJed for many years before slowly moving into production. What took you so long?
At the start I was just concentrating on the club, DJing, and the label, which was enough. Slowly I accumulated equipment, and was making tracks for quite a while before I finally released the first 12". As time went on I got more and more into the production side of things.
Production-wise do you prefer digital or analogue means?
I'm both really. I like to combine the two in my studio, the best of both worlds. I like the analogue stuff for the hands on element of it, and the sound of course. But, digital is so versatile, and has more possibilities, so I like both together.
How important do you consider technological evolution to be for electronic music and what evolutions do you find inspiring/regrettable?
It's important, as we would all become bored if we were stuck with the same things to work with endlessly. It's great to always have new possibilities, but that doesn't mean that the music made is any better. After all the development over the years, some of the tracks from 12 years ago still sound as good as anything now.
The earlier releases especially on Sativae were very bleepy and screechy, clearly taking influence from the Sheffield sound. What was/is so inspiring about the Sheffield heritage, and what other influences found their way into your music?
That whole Sheffield sound what was happening in the UK in the late 80s/early 90s. They were the records that we listened to – they had all the beats and bass that we liked. I suppose it was almost like a bit of an update, a heavier version. I always listened to a lot of German techno, Italian stuff like Leo Anibaldi, all sorts of stuff, which somehow makes its way into the music.
Quite a lot the tracks by the Edinburgh crew seem to draw influences from the early 90s ravey and industrial techno, the Belgian/German sound (some R&S/PCP), early UR... How far off am I when I say that your sound is to a large extent a development from this early 90s rave/industrial sound?
I think you're really close! I still play old PCP records, old R&S, and UR now... There's an old Mover track on the mix CD. That's the kind of stuff we used to play at the club years ago, and to me a lot of it still sounds good now.
A lot of your music has this post-apocalypse, paranoid and dark feeling to it. What ideas and sentiments fuel this dark and eerie sound?
When I listen to music, it's usually these kinds of things that attract me to it in the first place. I suppose I have always been a bit like that. When I was younger, I was never into normal pop music, I was listening to Bowie from a young age, as I got older I got into metal, punk, hardcore, industrial... Never really light listening.
What is your take an the current UK scene, with the progressive craze going on, the media, the superclubs..?
To be honest, I've been out of the UK for three years, and don't read the magazines. I don't take too much notice really, but there are not as many techno clubs as there were before. The club scene in that way did die off. It's a shame as there were always good parties in the UK. The media and superclubs all seem bland to me, and the progressive thing sounds like trance to me.
How do you see the UK scene developing in the coming years?
Even though the club scene has died a bit there, there always seems to lots of producers doing good things there – there doesn't seem to be any problem. I have been checking out some of the 2-step stuff from London, which is great – huge dark basslines, with almost electro drums.
And what about the scene your involved in?
As I can see, everyone is getting on with their respective projects, doing their thing. Hopefully making some good music in the process, trying to push things forward a little.
What are you currently working on?
I'm halfway through the next album, trying to get that finished, also a track for the new Feis compilation CD, as well as a few remixes here and there.
What can we expect from you in the future?
In the pipeline for release there's a collaboration with Tobias Schmidt on Sativae and another collaboration with Lars Sandberg on Missile. And Cristian and I are meant to be going into the studio at some point soon...
EdShift
posted 22 August 2008 (23:52:16)
I have very fond memories of Dunnichen Hill free festival (1994 or 95). Huge event by local standards and the biggest that festy ever got. (police almost killed it the year after and completely the year after that.)
But that year it was special.
Sativa turned up with a great PA and played all night in amazing style to upwards of 4000 people.
I remember fire shows and fireworks at midnight.
Best underground festy I was ever at and the first one I finally grokked dance music.
It had always seemed a bit clinical or untuneful but that festival underscored the tribal almost ritualistic nature of it. (The Mushrooms we bought from a traveller van helped...- Thank to you too :-))))
It was a life-changing experience to be part of that. - I went on to do a lot of dancing to rave stuff after that and then laterally tried my hand at giving something back to the free party scene(Sounds corny but that's how it works...) . Got together with a mate, blagged some gear and a pa and put together a live dance set and played out a few times at parties.
A very special night so 'nuff respect and thanks to all at Sativa for that one. You guys inspired me.
EdShift
